Since
this interview was conducted, the Euphrates family, and Iraqis worldwide,
suffered a great loss with the killing of Nofy Fannan. Not only was he the
creative cornerstone of Euphrates, but was an inspiration and a great source of
knowledge and wisdom for us all. He will be missed, and will accompany us in
every step we take.
Cross cultural races are difficult
to finish, let alone compete in. With so many stereotypes to
jump over and corporate commodification booby traps to get around, its
surprising to see any
independent, conscientious voice make it through the riff raff and wholesale
approach of popular
culture. Recently the staff of
shakomakonet reunited with the Euphrates family
in Toronto.
Recorded in Montreal, lyrical phenomenon Jamal Abdul Narcel does his vernacular
spectacular
acrobatics on beats laid down and brought to life by the magic of Sandhill
Productions in a
divine marriage between the enchanted tunes of Arabia and the raw reality of hip
hop. The
listener is immediately juxtaposed to his or her inner identity as diligent drum
delivery
elevates one right into the Euphrates experience.
Standing at the Bend in the River, the album whisks you through diaspora,
capitalism, empire,
exile, and intellectual resistance in a way never explored prior to this hip hop
breakthrough.
Peek into the minds of the geniuses behind the music in this short but
tantalizing interview.
shakomakonet: So, shakomako (what's up)?
Jamal: Maku shee (nothing).
Habillis: Too much to mention.
Nofy: The Euphrates Experience.
shakomakonet: How did music make its way into your lives?
Jamal: At a young age, my father used to play classical music to help me fall
asleep. My
grandmother was also a musician, and that drove me to play instruments as well.
I went to a fine
arts school and played the piano, trumpet, and saxophone.
Habillis: My mother used to play music all the time around the house. That
tapped into the music
that's in me, and in everyone I think.
Nofy: We (Habillis and I) were both exposed in the same way being brothers that
lived in the
same household.
shakomakonet: How did music turn into hip hop for you guys?
Nofy: All of our older siblings listened to hip hop. When I moved to Canada, I
started
breakdancing at school with my brother. And then eventually we would go to block
parties where
hip hop really lived. My friends would have turntables, and that blew my mind.
The first song
that I fell in love with was "Fuck the Police" by N.W.A.
Jamal: To me, it came through the form of a Wu Tang tape.
Habillis: The first album i listened to end to end was Straight out of Compton.
shakomakonet: And how did you evolve from being a listener to being an artist?
Jamal: I listened to the music, and I started writing, and that expanded my
horizons.
Nofy: I also started writing.
Habillis: Producing started as a hobby for me.
Nofy: I also applied what I learned in school to the music production and
"packaging" of the
album.
shakomakonet: Let's talk more about Euphrates, how did u guys come together?
Jamal: Our grandfathers used to hang out, and that continued its way through our
parents and
down to us.
Nofy: We also went to the same school together, although me and Jamal didn't
hang out till later
on.
shakomakonet: How has being part of the same family for so long affected your
music?
Jamal: Our parent's experience as displaced Iraqis has affected our thirst for
justice. We know
that we have the ability to speak on their behalf, and on behalf of other
Iraqis.
Nofy: Hip Hop has always been an avenue for expression, and speaking about
important issues. We
have laid down a blueprint for our experiences, and use hip hop to speak about
them.
shakomakonet: Hip hop can be perceived as not an element of Iraqi culture, has
that made it more
difficult for you to speak about themes that are so Iraqi in their meaning and
identity?
Jamal: We live in the West, and we must understand that people here tune in to
different
wavelengths.
Nofy: We are a minority.
shakomakonet: Another element that reappears in your music is politics. How do
politics affect
your music?
Jamal: Politics have shaped my conscious effort to add some form of discourse in
the sheltered
Arab mind state. As Arab Muslims, we grew up in an environment where we could
not speak out
against the "regime" or subordinate system we have created for us by
colonization and the powers
that be. Therefore, studying politics allowed me to broaden my identity and
understand where
these short coming stem from
shortcomings.
shakomakonet: What else inspires you?
Habillis: I'm curious to hear what Arabic melody sounds like with drums and
beats.
Jamal: The nutation of Hip Hop.
shakomakonet: Why do you guys choose "A Bend in the River" as the name of your
album?
Jamal: We chose a bend in the river because, number one, the title stems from a
book about
colonization by T Naipaul. Secondly, since we called Euphrates, we feel that
people of our
generation, that is Iraqis or Arabs displaced from their origin are left as
"different" or
"other." We are that bend that should stream back into our civilization and
rebuild what we have
lost through the conscious efforts of war and hate mongers that have controlled
us within our
designated boundaries i.e. borders. All of us, including
shakomakonet, we work
to quench the
drying thirst for knowledge and understanding in our peoples.
shakomakonet: What are your favorite tracks on that album?
Jamal: My favorite track beat wise is Watermelon Chunks. I can't explain the
zone it takes me
too. Just the rage of Arabs at the time of September 11th, and the knowledge of
our eminent
subjugation due to the stupidity of recent representatives of our people.
Lyrically, my baby on
that album is Seven and Silk Robes. I just spewed on those. Seven is probably my
favorite
representative track of who I am, and how I felt about my loss of identity or
the loss of our
children in Iraq.
shakomakonet: In the album, how do you switch from Arabic to English so well in
your flow?
Jamal: Well, my Arabic, being a displaced individual, has always been used at
home. My
schooling, pertaining to most of my life, besides Islamic class in high school,
was all in
English...at home, I speak Araglish, a mixture of both languages with both my
mother and father,
as well as my sister. So its a natural thought process. You know how you
formulate statements on
some "Gimme that Khashooja" its just a natural process for me. the semantics are
all tangled in
my mind.
shakomakonet: How have you matured as an emcee? What can fans anticipate for the
new album?
Jamal: The new album is more conceptual. Habillis and Nofy have stepped up their
game, as Truth
Terrorist call them, they are the beat butchers of Baghdad. As lyrics, the first
album was more
free range stream of consciousness flow. That was just an unleashing of my
jumbled understanding
of me and my environment. This album is more of a story, I attack the Iraq
situation
prevalently, but from different eyes, different na3al (slipper). A lot of it is
story based, or
putting myself in different contexts. Examples of one of them is a
representation of us at a
border, and what happened when we tried to go to the States. The other is a
concept of being the
embedded journalist, another a soldier and so forth. I'm just trying to escape
the
misunderstanding and being a bit more straight forward about the human element
of war, American
or Iraqi. The next album will be on the next level, lyrically and Beat wise.
shakomakonet: How would you describe your relationship with the medium in which
you exist?
Jamal: It's technologically driven, you are forced to let it out through
technology.
Nofy: We feel misrepresented, because there are others speaking for us.
Jamal: Misrepresentation. That's why we speak of Iraqnophobia. We have to make
sure others don't
commodify us.
We would like to thank Euphrates for their time, and would like to also take
this opportunity to
let readers know that Euphrates will be featured in many upcoming interviews, as
well as
concerts around the world. Tune into
shakomakonet for a way to get a hold of
their much anticipated and beautiful creations.
Hip hop lives in the streets of Baghdad.
Thank you to all those who made the interview possible. Through you, we continue
to grow.